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Post by Nicky on Mar 19, 2013 15:04:52 GMT 9
That was an offensive thread ("This Is Garbage" made March 18th) and I was wondering why you don't erase it?
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Post by Peter on Mar 19, 2013 21:05:16 GMT 9
Hi Nicky we promised to answer folks regardless of what they wrote... no matter how rough. It will stay up for a while. You never know that by a bit of love and concern you can change a persons life. Look at the Apostle Paul he was in the crew that was killing the early disciples. One way or the other we are delivering our hearts and souls. Everybody that comes here... gets a chance.
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Post by Rob on Mar 20, 2013 15:35:46 GMT 9
I wrote the post you are talking about and figured you would erase it. Surprised you didn't. I still think you're full of it, but I read some of your other stuff and think you all are a bit different. I hate church. Had to put up with that every sunday for years. Just a waste of time. So dead.
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Post by Peter on Mar 21, 2013 0:16:52 GMT 9
Hey Rob... guess what... you're right on that point. So many churches can just be dead end and lifeless messes. They can drive more people away... than they bring to God! Really sad. I had the same experience, but when things got really tough... and my life just went down the toilet... it was then that I really started searching. I knew it wasn't in the vain traditions and much of the stuff I had seen, BUT Deep in my heart I also knew there had to be something more. That's when I found the Lord... not a church... not a meeting... it's when I found that I really had a friend and someone who was real and alive and someone that didn't just have a bunch of dead traditions and weirdness. Anyway my life completely changed and everything worked out and I went from hell hole to a new man with a reason and a purpose. That's all were tryin' to get out here... no church... no this that and the other... just the news that we've got a friend and someone who really cares and someone who can really help those in need! Hope you get that, because that is pretty much everything!
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Post by Rob on Mar 21, 2013 17:55:33 GMT 9
Ya man. If the bible thing was true I just dont see it in the people that say they believe it. Nothing wrong with jesus its his followers that make me sick. and I guess thats not all of them but most that I've met.
Sorry I was mad when I made that 1st note on here. You're more patient than I would be.
Rob
Can you change my name on that note I put on or dump the whole deal. Thanks
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Post by Peter on Mar 21, 2013 23:00:52 GMT 9
Hey Rob I was trying to erase the name you put on there w/o any result. I think they won't allow me to do that. I'll keep trying.
I will say Rob that sincere folks who really love the Lord are pretty cool. Then you've got those in it for a variety of other reasons, but the books pretty clear about Jesus and how he lived and that is the best sample to look at. He really is a friend... hope I can get that through to ya. All The Best To You.
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Post by Rob on Mar 23, 2013 19:11:35 GMT 9
Alright ya you are a bit different. Actually it was cool some of the stuff you srote and some of the videos, but I still don't like a lot of the self righteous church people I know. I liked the story about the Chinese chick who was a red guard member and some them beating the guy up. That I get. Pretty cool. Ya thanks for being patient itg means a lot.
Rob
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Post by Peter on Mar 24, 2013 22:14:46 GMT 9
Hey Rob I deleted that post as requested. I would say it might help if you can differentiate from some of the people you have met and Jesus. People at their best are fallible... Jesus will never fail you! It's the only thing that got through to me when I was a teen. His word was real and His gift was real and all I had to do was accept it... that holds true for anyone, anytime, anyplace. Like our cover picture shows... He never changes and he's always there for you and me and everybody!
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Post by Annie on Apr 5, 2013 16:48:50 GMT 9
This is an excellent thread... so full of The Father's grace.
I spent many years hurt and repulsed by "the church." Then God healed my heart, helped me forgive, and now keeps me mindful of the hurts and insecurities of those around me. I've been the prodigal son as well as the older brother and I'm so thankful that no matter where I was in my walk with God, His grace and love always found me. Through it all, it taught me that life is not about me. It's about sharing and celebrating the love of Jesus. As The Lord lavishes us with His awesome love, we become empowered to be the change for others that we always hoped to receive. It's a true miracle, only possible through God's amazing grace.
Rob, Keep asking, seeking, & knocking. God is so faithful. He will not let you down.
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Post by Rob on Apr 5, 2013 19:42:51 GMT 9
Ya, thanks Peter & Annie. The church thing was just so fake and it seemed like folks were just playing a game. I mean if it really was real would you live like they do. Saw a lot of garbage and it just made me sick. But your thing on one of your pages was cool, there is that question inside, what's the reason for it all. Ya always pulled at me and it's why I took the time to read your site and it was different. Like the Chinese chick said, if there was somebody that really lived that I'd want to too. But the thing is you don't have to be in Communist China or whatever to find garbage, it's here too. Anyway thank you for taking time to answer my post and for being real. Kind of gives a guy reason to hope that there really is someone out there who is livin it. And Peter point taken about people failing but the Lord won't. It just so much garbage and so discouraging kind of kills me inside. Thanks for a bit of life and hope. Your web site is different. Thank you.
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Post by Tom Willis on Apr 6, 2013 15:58:09 GMT 9
Hey Rob... Tom here. Great little thread. Here's my 2 cents. We've all been through stuff... rotten people... rotten deals and it's like Annie said... you've gotta keep seeking and knocking. There are good sincere people out there who love the Lord and you've gotta keep hanging on to the Lord till you find 'em. When you do they are wonderful... the best people this world has to offer. Kind, sincere and loving. The kind of folks you won't find anywhere else, but on the way to finding 'em you might hit a lot of garbage and mean idiots. A smooth sea never made a skilled mariner... those tough people and tough times help you see and appreciate the good folks and God's love. If we could all go back and do it over we'd probably want to avoid those idiots and scumbags, but they did teach a pretty good lesson. They weren't completely useless... they were great examples of what not to be. Like my neighbor lady said when asked what unction was... she wisely replied... I don't know what it is, BUT I SURE KNOW WHAT IT AIN'T. HA! Like Annie said... " Keep asking, seeking, & knocking. God is so faithful. He will not let you down." He is real and He Loves you and has His Hand on your life! Hang tough there Rob, lots of good things and good people up ahead.
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Post by Peter on Apr 6, 2013 17:57:02 GMT 9
Annie, Great Post... Tom, Spot On... What More Could I Add???
Rob I think the Lord loves you and is trying to show you He's real. We've all walked where you're walking... and most came to the same conclusion... garbage happens, but regardless... we keep going forward! Life is a daring adventure... or nothing at all! And if we don't risk it and put our hearts out there... we'll never get anywhere. Nothing ventured... nothing gained... We just have to learn to fly above the problems and the... all to often... funky people... and hang on to the Lord. Nurture our dreams... and rise above the rest!
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Post by Rob on Apr 7, 2013 11:27:28 GMT 9
Ya I get the point, just hate havin' it shoved down my throat. Nice song Peter... you guys did that?
Actually sat down and prayed today, can't believe it. If there's something out there, if God is real I just prayed he'd help me.
You guys are pretty cool. Later dudes.
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Post by Nicky on Apr 9, 2013 0:38:02 GMT 9
OK... I see why you leave it up. Sorry.
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Post by Brandy on Apr 14, 2013 22:49:07 GMT 9
We were all young once!
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